Blue Flower

Hi there, been a while.

I realized that I've never uploaded the coat of arms, respectively linked to the relevant sources, so here they are:

Current Coat of Arms, as currently in use:

Source: Database of Tyrolean Coats of Arms by Tiroler Landesmuseen, 4 entries (interesting because of sources)

https://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=19806&sb=marperger&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99

https://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=19807&sb=marperger&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99

https://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=19808&sb=marperger&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99

https://wappen.tiroler-landesmuseen.at/index34a.php?id=&do=&wappen_id=19809&sb=marperger&sw=&st=&so=&str=&tr=99

 

And the photos for the framed page of the registry of Coats of Arms I have, I currently don't know which one that was though. (It's not Siebmacher)

Herren von Marperger, Photo von Adelsverzeichnis  Seite Adelverzeichnis

You'll note that those coats of arms differ from each other.
My current understanding is that one is Tyrolean, which at the time was a separate state, the other (lower one) a Holy Roman Empire one.
The lower one indicates an imperial rank above mere knighthood, my understanding is "reichsunmittelbarer Freiherr" - equivalent to a Baron, but outside the local hierarchy, but in direct vassalship to the king/emperor.
Also, it's a combination coat which you'd typically get by marriage. How that interacts with the house signet - no idea.
I'll research when I find time, very low priority though.

Context for non-Austrians: after the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire 1806 the legal status of "reichsunmittelbar" became meaningless, and the rank got transferred into the local nobility wherever the family was residing.
In Austria after WWI all titles of nobility became voided, and all indicators thereof, like the "von" got struck from the name.
So it's essentially meaningless nowadays. :)

Caveat: It's well possible that the second coat of arms is from a different branch of the family. If anyone knows anything, I'd apprechiate a note.
Jakob

This pedigree has been made by one of my grandfather's brothers, my father has said, but he couldn't remember which one.

Dad thought that the primary reason for this at the time (the late 1930ies) was to show to the national socialists, who were coming into power, that there had been no "unwanted", that is, jewish, marriage in the past of the family.
So, if anyone cares enough to verfiy the whole thing, feel free to do so.

Also, it does not mention earlier incidents where our family name popped up in sources outside of Tirol, namely a document "Ursprung des Regensburgischen Hansgrafen-Amtes" (Origin of the Hansgrafen-Amt in Regensburg), which names one Richero de Marchperg as attending a day of court in mid-11th century, among other notables (this is a clear indication that Richero was a person of some political weight, probably a ministeriale, or lower noble. More research would be necessary).
Then there is a mentioning in the book of vassals of the styrian branch of house Lichtenstein, where a Marchperger is named as having a manor/farm south of Stainach Irdning, where indeed there is a Marbergerweg leading up the "Gatschberg" (verbally: "Mud-Mountain") from 1248.
And there are a number of other occasions where the name pops up pre-15th century, which are not solvable via Google at this point of time, so digging through Archives in those matters should get results, if anyone had the time :)

Also notable: In the book of tyrolean nobility the family is not entered with the signet shown here, but a different one (Mom has got the page, have to get it, and make a picture).
There we're noted as Barons, in the original usually "Freiherr", which would fit the positions of various family members in military and government (as it was).
More details would obviously be welcome.

But to the predigree: It's focused on the Tyrolean Branch, missing out on the German one (where one very notable Marberger wrote an important book on mercantilism.. I'll link the title later), and of course the Americans.
And it ends with my great-grandfather's generation, so to my best knowledge noone has personal memory of any of the people on the pedigree, only stories.
I'll do my best to add the information as I find it, but as already mentioned, in a section for registered family members.

That is to say: Many members of this, well, tribe, do very cool stuff. Would be cool to keep track of each other.

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Dear Family, dear Relatives, dear cousins once, thrice, and twenty times removed!

Since I recently realized that the family domain is available, I thought that this would be a good moment to grab it, and do a collection of all of the stuff that is lying around about family and pedigree.
Currently there are 3 branches of the family that I know of, namely the Tyrolean one, the German branch, and the US branch.

Several families closely related, but with changed surname (marriage I hope, not flight through renaming :D ), which I will strive to add, in time.

If you know something, or would like to lend a hand: Very welcome!

However: Information on living relatives will only be available to family members, that is, only visible if you're logged in.
If you want acces, drop me a note, but, kindly, give me some indication of how you're related, so we can keep this in the family.
In time, maybe, we can add enough information that we can keep track of the family, and who knows, maybe some reconnecting can be done.

Language: Since everyone will be able to speak English, but not everyone can be expected to have won the wrestling match with German, I propose to use that as a general language.

Questions / proposals:
Anytime, you can find me on the major social media platforms, or via Diese E-Mail-Adresse ist vor Spambots geschützt! Zur Anzeige muss JavaScript eingeschaltet sein! (there is a Jakob Marberger in the US, so we don't mix that up :) )

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Jakob

ps. Template when I find time. ;)